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Bewilderment

Posted by Chad Ruter on January 29, 2008

I can’t believe it. I just can’t friggin believe it! How in the world do you trade the best pitcher on the planet for the baseball equivalent of nuts and bolts? It floors me that in the high-speed communication world we live in, that MLB teams are getting fleeced this badly in trades. I don’t like boring people with trade breakdowns of players they dont know, but when the player being shuttled in the other direction is named Johan Santana, I can’t hold back.

The proposed trade (not official yet because teams need to get physicals for their new toys and the Mets have 72 hours to negotiate a $150 million-ish extension with Santana) sends OF Carlos Gomez, and pitchers Philip Humber, Kevin Mulvey and Deolis Guerra to the great state of Minnesota, for one: Johan. If you’re a fan of Minnesota in general…begin preparing yourself for the inevitable trading of Adrian Peterson to a football team on the east coast in the very near future. We’ve seen the T-Wolves auction off Kevin Garnett for 30 cents on the dollar, and it appears the Twinkies have received about the same value for a phenomenal pitcher in his prime.

Justin paniced when he saw the trade come across the wires…because I’m sure the ESPN scroll read something like: BREAKING NEWS: ESPN.com’s Buster Olney reports that the Minnesota Twins have reached an agreement to trade P Johan Santana to the New York…

This is the point that Justin starts jumping up and down and dialing me on his cell phone to tell me the glorious news, only to be shot down at the very same moment by seeing the word METS instead of YANKEES – prompting that improptu blog Justin rattled off earlier today.

The Yankees and Red Sox both had better deals on the table in December, and now the Twins had to settle for scraps that your 4-year-old sister would toss to the dog. Here’s a quick breakdown of the players the Twins received in the deal.

Quick note: Honest to God J, I had to look up who two of these guys in the trade. I know baseball prospects…but not any that wouldn’t show up in the Top-100.

The Guys I Know:
Carlos Gomez (3rd best Mets prospect according to Baseball America). This 22-year-old OF has been with the Mets since he was 18, and has progressed through their system nicely – consumating in his call-up to the majors in 2007. He’s considered a 5-tool prospect as I eluded to yesterday, but I would say he is a 3-tool guy at best. His career OBP in the minors is .339, and you can expect that number to drop to about .310 in the majors. He only has 20 career professional homers, so there is no way he can be considered a power prospect either. Gomez is by no means a guaranteed star in the majors, and would be a solid #2 prospect player in a trade like this…but most definitely should not be a centerpiece.

Philip Humber (7th best Mets prospect). Humber was a big time pitcher in the collegiate ranks at Rice, but is in no way a top of the rotation starter now or in the future. The highest I’ve ever heard him considered is a #4 pitcher, and I wouldn’t put him that high right now. He pitched most of 2007 at Triple-A New Orleans and managed just a 4.27 ERA. On the plus side, New Orleans is in the Pacific Coast League, which is considered to be a hitters league, so I’ll give him the benefit of the doubt there. He’s 25 now, and won’t crack the Twins rotation, now or ever. His peripheral statistics dont shout anything at me either. His K/BB and K/IP aren’t anything to cry home about. Not good.

The Guys I Don’t Know
Kevin Mulvey (4th best Mets prospect). A 22-year old righty who has more college than pro experience is another guy that just doesn’t jump off the charts stastically, and I’ve never heard his name mentioned in the same sentence as “electric stuff.” He’s only pitched one full year above Rookie ball, but did do quite well…racking up a 3.32 ERA in Double-A Binghamton. His K/IP splits aren’t great, but he does have almost a 3/1 K/BB ratio. Let me just say one thing…when I’m pulling out a K/BB stat to prove a guys worth in a trade, we’ve got serious issues. I’m supremely confident I could go 3-10 against this guy…and I haven’t stood in against a 90’s fastball in nearly 4 years.

Deolis Guerra (2nd best Mets prospect). He’s young (19), and that’s why he is a top prospect. Youth is such a key to baseball players because they peak in their high 20’s, so if a guy can be successful in the Majors in his early 20’s he considered highly valuable. This Venezuelan righty has pitched a full season in High-A ball, and posted a 4.01 ERA in 20 starts there in 2007. He’s still a long ways away from the Major Leagues (2-3 years at best), and still isn’t a guy that is going to scare you out of the batters box. He’s a #3 prospect in a deal like this…but with the lack of talent in this deal, could be considered the prize pull. All depends on the scouts looking, and the talent evaluation process.

Now that I look at this trade after writing it out…it’s even worse then when I read it today! If you’re a Mets fan, you have to be peeing your pants in excitement. You got the best pitcher in baseball right now, and gave up, conceivably, nothing that even resembles a future star. Absolutely awful is the only way I can describe this trade from Minnesota’s perspective. I’m just sad the Cubs didn’t get in on this bidding. I coulda scrounged up a return better than this. Simply amazing!

On the prediction front, if Johan is fully healthy, just hand him the Cy Young award right now. I mean…pitching against the Marlins and Nationals on a consistent basis, and even the lefty heavy Phillies will struggle against him. Moving to the inferior league is the best thing that may ever happen to Santana, and he instantly makes that team a title contender.

Since Eddie Murphy successfully predicted the NFC Championship game, I thought I’d unveil the Super Bowl prediction made in the movie I Am Legend. Take a look at the screenshot below (the frozen scroll bar at the bottom).

-CR

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Johan traded to big apple…

Posted by Justin Jacobs on January 29, 2008

So apparently there was some worthwhile news to come out of Media Day after all, it just had nothing to do with the NFL! As Chad alluded to yesterday things have been pretty (eh) warm on the hot stove lately and most of the heat was focused on whether or not Johan Santana would get traded and which team would land the deal.

Well I guess we have our answer. ESPN is reporting a deal that would send Santana to the…. Mets (f*** my life) for New York prospect’s: Carlos Gomez, Phil Humber, Kevin Mulvey, and Deolis Guerra, you’re guess is as good as mine as to who the hell any of these guys are. Where the hell is Chad when you need him? Anyway, here’s a link to the espn story if you’re interested in learning more.

It seems as if Minnesota could have gotten a better deal from a number of different teams. Looks like once again Chad’s baseball wisdom fell upon deaf ears. Sorry buddy. Now if you’ll excuse me I’m going to go have a good cry and imagine what could have been… (sigh).

-JJ

Johan with the Yankees

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Today is Media Day.. yeah(?)

Posted by Justin Jacobs on January 29, 2008

Is it just me or is Media Day the biggest waste of a day in the sports year? Every year before the Super Bowl both teams are required to strut themselves before the press and answer an endless barrage of stupid questions, most of which have no bearing on the upcoming game. The players don’t don’t enjoy Media Day, the press doesn’t enjoy Media Day, and you can be damn sure that the coaches aren’t a big fan of Media Day, so I guess the question that has to be asked is why have it? I know the Super Bowl is a big deal, in fact I’d call it the biggest day of sports year, but I don’t feel like Media Day is adding anything to the spectacle that is the Super Bowl. When was the last time we actually learned anything from Media Day? I mean for god’s sake the injury report hasn’t even come out yet!

Alright, I’m moving on before I get to upset. Here’s something that cracked me up pretty good…

That’s right, not only was Eddie Murphy infinitely more funny in the 80’s he also had psychic powers! I’m now going through all of his old movies looking for other sporting events that he has predicted years in advance. I also get the bonus of watching Beverly Hills Cop again, so that’s awesome, but no gambling tip will get me to watch Another 48 Hours, that movie is just crap. Still it was good seeing Eddie Murphy in good form again. Now the only Eddie we get is the one that impregnates Scary Spice and can’t keep a marriage together. It’s a depressing world we live in.

You know what’s not depressing?

Chris Paul

I know most people in this country are too busy with the Super Bowl hype, Presidential Primaries, and tax rebates to keep track of the goings on in the NBA, but Chris Paul has been having himself a year. He’s averaging 20 points, 10 assist and 4 rebounds a game, and has led the New Orleans Hornets to a 32-12 record (2nd best in the league). They just got done putting the smack down on the defending champs (that’s the Spurs for you uninitiated), and Paul is getting plenty of buzz for MVP this year. It’s still early, and the cream of the crop in the NBA usually doesn’t rise until late in the second half of the season, but color me impressed with Paul’s performance this year so far.

Well that’s it for me today. I know I’m cutting it a bit short but I have to get back to… not freezing to death. I don’t want to be that guy who constantly bitches about the weather, but it’s a freaking blizzard outside right now! Have a Happy Media Day everyone!

-JJ

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